I hope you guys out there can help me - I%26#39;m getting somewhat nervous that I still don%26#39;t have our 2 weeks RV trip panned out so please let me have your ideas and input. We%26#39;ll be leaving NC on June 19 and return on July 3.
So far we are considering:
Day 1 Arrive Portland in the evening
Day 2 Pick up 36%26#39; RV in Portland
Day 3 Stay in Newport??
Day 4 Stay somewhere in Southern OR at the coast
Day 5 Stay one more night at the same place
Day 6 Go down to CA to see the Redwoods
Day 7 Stay one more night at the same place
Day 8 Go inland towards the mountains
Day 9 Stay one more night at the same place
Day 10 Stay close to Crater Lake (Detroit Lake??)
Day 11 Stay one more night at the same place
Day 12 Go north towards Salem
Day 13 Stay one more night at the same place
Day 14 Portland
Day 15 Leave Portland in the evening
First of all I would love your feedback on the areas we are thinking about going - what to see and what not to miss. Is there anything we will miss that is on the not-to-be missed list for first timers in OR?
Secondly we are in a rental RV without a car so we%26#39;ll not be able to take all the small, challenging roads and we%26#39;ll not be able to drive fast either. Thus our itinerary is not too ambitious, I hope.
Once I have the areas more firm I%26#39;ll be able to reserve RV parks as it seems that we need to do that in advance.
To help you guys give advice a little about us: two adults, one 13 and one 9 year old, first time in RV, first time in OR, old timers within car vacation, into coastal towns, relaxation and family time (thus our intention to stay 2 nights in most RV parks), not into touristic places and museums.
THANKS for providing any and all advice!
Next step in our trip planning for the coast and inland June
A beautiful trip awaits you.
You%26#39;ll get a number of suggestions and questions, such as why two nights in Salem? Why Day 8 and 9, same place (what place, to be determined)?
It%26#39;s hard laying out a trip for a new area, especially one as geographically diverse as Oregon, but you%26#39;ll get good answers. And you have a good start.
I strongly suggest you visit, from Crater Lake, the Bend area, rather than Salem. Only 90 miles away. You and the kids will find it fascinating. Geologically, lava beds, Newberry Crater, High Desert Museum, and more.
And from Bend, returning to Portland, schedule a visit to see the Scenic Hwy., Columbia R. Gorge:
Columbia River Gorge
http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/columbia/
http://www.spectacularoregon.com/
Oregon, Central/Bend Area
http://www.visitbend.com/
Crater Lake National Park A strikingly beautiful half day experience.
http://www.nps.gov/crla/
Next step in our trip planning for the coast and inland June
As your revised schedule is developed, consider a visit to Mt. St. Helens, north of Portland. Fascinating, the drive up is easy, the visitor centers excellent, especially, at the top, Johnston Ridge Observatory.
Mount St. Helens National Volcanic Monument http://www.fs.fed.us/gpnf/mshnvm/
I agree with voyaging. Definitely Bend over Salem, and do include Mt. St. Helens.
Detroit and Crater Lake are nowhere near each other. You might be thinking of Diamond Lake down by Crater Lake instead.
Thanks y%26#39;all!
My first post was my rough thinking and I%26#39;m glad that you guys provided your feedback - here is my new, revised version:
Day 2 From Portland to Tillamook Cheese and maybe Oregon Undersea Gardens
Day 3 Sea Lion Caves
Day 4 Relax in RV park
Day 5 Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area
Day 6 The Prehistoric Gardens
Day 7 Relax in RV park
Day 8 Redwood National Park
Day 8 Oregon Vortex
Day 9 Relax in RV park
Day 10 Crater Lake National Park (Diamond Lake too??)
Day 11 Newberry National Volcanic Monument (other Bend sights??)
Day 12 Columbia River Gorge
Day 13 Maybe Mt. St. Helens or relaxing in RV park
Day 14 Portland
I think this looks better but you - the experts - please let me know, thanks.
I consider Mt. St. Helens an absolute %26#39;must see%26#39;, especially with kids 13 and 9. It is just over a 2 hour drive from Portland to Johnston Ridge Observatory. Be sure to see the theater presentation there and stop at the other Visitor Centers along the road too. An easy day-trip from Portland, or there is a nice state park, Seaquest, just across from the first Visitor Center. The park is about 5 miles from I-5 and has some beautiful campsites in the tall fir trees. If the weather is clear on your first day, think about going there first, then continuing on the rest of your trip. (weather cloudy or rainy--add it too the end of the trip.)
Day 3 - Sea Lion Caves - Skip it - It%26#39;s over-hyped IMO. You can most likely see more sea lions on the docks in Newport--up-closer, and for free!
Looks like you have a great trip planned --Enjoy!
Okay, with a 36 footer there are two small sections that I see as challenging.
One is the rim road around Crater Lake. It is doable, definitely, but allow enough time as you will want to travel slowly. The road is narrow and crumbling along part of the sides.
The second is the Undersea Gardens. That is located on the bayfront in Newport, and I would *not* recommend taking a motorhome of any size along there, especially when you are not accustomed to driving it! The street is narrow and congested. However, there is an alternative - if you really want to get to the bayfront.
I think you should spend both your initial two days in Newport. Other than the bayfront, you can take your MH to the lighthouse(s) and the aquarium if you want. Stay away from Nye Beach area, as it too is extremely tight.
To get to the bayfront without going on the narrow part, head east on Hwy 20. That%26#39;s the main busy intersection stop light. Go east about a mile to the next stop light, turn south on John Moore Rd. toward the bay and go down the hill. At the bottom, turn right. Just past Englunds Marine, you%26#39;ll see a large gravel parking lot on your left by the edge of the bay. This is free public parking with lots of room. You%26#39;ll need to walk less than half a mile to get to the sea lions at Port Dock 1, and/or the Undersea Gardens. (Over-rated IMO)
A nice RV park is just over the bridge at the South Beach Marina. You can walk to eat at the family-friendly Rogue if you like :-)
http://www.portofnewport.com/general_info.htm
Then head south. I%26#39;ll skip over the dunes right now.
You might like to stay a night at Winchester Bay. There are several campgrounds and an outstanding RV park, which is right on the bay! Winchester Bay RV Resort. You can drive the MH out to the end of the road and look back at the huge dunes. There are also ATV rentals nearby. There are several restaurants within walking distance - Unger%26#39;s Fish %26amp; Chips is great.
Brookings has an oceanfront RV park but it%26#39;s not a private one:
tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g51780-d7795鈥?/a>
(I need to post my photos of it!)
Bandon has a park which is within walking distance of old town, but is not near the water.
Crescent City, CA has Shoreline RV park which is on the beach and near the lighthouse and jetty. There is also a KOA back in the redwoods.
Diamond Lake has Diamond Lake RV Resort which has full hookups and a partial lake view. There is also a non-hookup campground on the lake.
Bend has one of the finest RV parks in the US, but it is pricey. It%26#39;s called Crown Villa RV Resort. Other than that, I%26#39;m not sure what is in Bend. All of the attractiosn you might see in Bend have ample parking for your MH. You would not drive it to the top of the cinder cone, however.
I would *not* suggest driving the historic Columbia River Highway. It wa built in the 1920%26#39;s and is extremely narrow! We are very cautious about driving it in our dually pickup.
You will need to take some care if you want to stay in State Parks. Most are large enough for your 36%26#39; MH, but some are not. They are designed for ';camping';, and not for today%26#39;s modern large RV%26#39;s. Forest Service campgrounds have no hookups and may be very small and too tight for you.
Do look out for overhead branches in any park!
Back to Day 2 - if you want to visit Tillamook Cheese, you%26#39;ll probably be taking Hwy 6. That is overall a good highway with some slow spots. You should have a full tank so no worries.
I this a gas rig or diesel? Prices are lowest along the coast in Florence, highest in Gold Beach. Crescent City, CA has *very* high fuel prices, but there is limited fuel along Hwy 199 until you get to Grants Pass. Cave Junction has a couple of stations. If it%26#39;s diesel, look for the green pumps.
I%26#39;ve been Rv%26#39;ing for many years so hope this has helped :-)
Thanks again for your great feedback. I have revised our schedule and tried to find RV parks (not booked any yet - thanks Half-Brit for your suggestions!!). I have incl. Mt. St. Helens too as this seems to be one of the not-to-be missed places, thanks Kitters for that suggestion.
I%26#39;m still debating where to go for the Redwood National Park. Half-Brit you suggest Crescent City but is that close to the park or do we need to go futher south??
As before - your comments and suggestions are very much appreciated, please.
June 20
Pick up RV in Portland and drive south to Newport
See the Sea Lions at the Port Dock 1, walk the bay front.
Stay either at Port of Newport RV park or Outdoor Resort Pacific Shores
June 21
Stay another night at same RV park
June 22
Drive south to Florence and visit the Sea Lion Caves (if we havn鈥檛 seen enough Sea Lions in Newport)
Stay at Winchester Bay RV Resort
June 23
Take a Dune ride with Sandland Adventures
Stay another night at same RV park
June 24
Drive south to Port Orford and see the Prehistoric Gardens
Stay at Shoreline RV (Cresent City, CA) or another RV park closer to Redwood National Park????
June 25
See the Redwood National Park (more details needed)
Stay another night at same RV park
June 26
Drive northeast to Gold Hill and see Oregon Vortex (not too sure this is something worthwhile)
Stay at Diamond Lake RV park
June 27
Drive south to Crater Lake National Park (this is south again but are the roads open??)
Stay another night at same RV park
June 28
Drive north to Bend and do a rafting tour with Sun Country Rafting
Stay at Crown Villa RV Resort
June 29
See the Newberry National Volcanic Monument
Stay another night at same RV park
June 30
Drive north to Mt. St. Helens, WA
Stay at ????
July 1
Stay another night at same RV park
July 2
Drive south to Portland
See the Oaks Amusement Park
Stay at Jantzen RV Park or Portland Fairview RV Park or Sandy Riverfront RV Park ??
July 3
Return the RV and enjoy Portland
Fly home in the evening
I can%26#39;t add much to your well-thought-out itinerary beyond a few comments.
June 22 - You%26#39;re ';not into touristic places';? Then pass on Sea Lion Caves, and take the lighthouse tour at Haceta Head just north instead. I%26#39;d suggest driving to the top of Cape Perpetua too, but don%26#39;t know if that works for an RV.
June 24 - It%26#39;s been almost 50 years since I%26#39;ve been to Prehistoric Gardens. Wondering if they%26#39;re as cheesey today as they were then.
June 26 - If Oregon Vortex isn%26#39;t of interest, maybe something like treehouses.com/treehouse/鈥rochure.html .
June 30 - On the drive from Bend, take hwy 126 through Sisters (to hwy 22 and I-5 at Salem). About 12 miles west of Sisters, turn north, following signs to Camp Sherman and the headwaters of the Metolius River. I think the kids would particularly like a visit to the Fish Hatchery, followed by a stop at the General Store for some kind of treat.
Besides those, I%26#39;m hoping you give yourselves time to just relax on the beach(es). Not much better in life than a sunny day on an Oregon beach. ;-) Also, I%26#39;m wondering why I%26#39;m not seeing the Columbia River Gorge in your itinerary. You might have trouble negotiating the Old Highway in the RV, but Multnomah Falls is accessible from I-84, and it%26#39;s always a show-stopper.
Redwood Nat%26#39;l Park. Here is a good website:
shannontech.com/ParkVision/鈥edwood.html
The park actually stretches for about 50 miles south of Crescent City. There is limited full hookup RV camping within the park itself. However, another option would be to go to Klamath. There is a nice looking RV park there, right on the Klamath River called Golden Bear RV park. We%26#39;ve not stayed there, but it looks nice and tidy.
If you opt for Klamath, be aware that there is very little in town. You will want to stock up on major grocery purchases in Crescent City at either Safeway or Ray%26#39;s at the north end of town.
It is worth the drive south to Stone Lagoon, which is about 8 miles south of Orick. There are lots of elk there, and you%26#39;ll pass through many thousands of acres of redwoods.
The road is good. There is a hill going out of Crescent City, and then about 10 miles south there is a short stretch of road that is right on the edge of the cliff - but has heavy-duty guardrails, LOL.
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Do not take the MH up to the top of Cape Perpetua. It would be okay for a small rig, but not a 36 footer.
I didn%26#39;t mean to scare you off of the Gorge ;-) Do take the freeway and stop at Multnomah Falls!
Here are three websites which will help you to find RV parks:
http://www.rv-clubs.us/rv_campgrounds.html
http://www.rvparkhunter.com/page2.asp
http://www.rvparkreviews.com/index.html
I know we stayed in a decent one when we went to Mt St Helens, but it%26#39;s been ... eek, about 8 years. Time does fly.
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Jantzen Beach RV Park is okay, as is Fairview. Both get airplane noise. We prefer Jantzen Beach as it%26#39;s closer to restaurants, etc. Try BJ%26#39;s Pizza if you go there. At Fairview, ask for a site on the upper level, away from the long-term live-ins. We%26#39;ve never stayed at Sandy River, but we keep intending to try it.
Crater Lake north entrance *should* be open. Don%26#39;t miss the Lava Cave at Newberry. I know you%26#39;re not into museums, but the High Desert Museum in Bend is very good and entertaining.
Okay, here are my random thoughts here...
As previously mentioned, I would not suggest taking the RV on the historic highway. Your best bet is to take I-84 and park at Multnomah Falls. From there, you can take the trail over to Wahkeena Falls, (about half a mile) or just hang out where you are. I would also suggest heading up to Bonneville Dam and the Fish Hatchery. Not sure about driving over the dam in the RV though.
Personally, I would skip Oaks Park. It is a very small and old amusement park. Really no wow factor there, but that is just my opinion.
I went to Prehistoric Gardens a few years ago. It still is just as cheesy, but I guess it was the kind of cheese I like. I really got a kick out of it. But, I can see how it might be anticlimatic to someone else.
Undersea Gardens in Newport..never have been, and I am in Newport quite often. Even have free passes to use, and haven%26#39;t. I think you would get much more enjoyment out of the aquarium and marine science center, IMHO.
As far as your last RV park, half-brit is the resident expert when it comes to such things. However, when my grandparents come up from snowbirding in New Mexico every year, they stay at Sandy Riverfront, and quite enjoy it. It is in a nice spot near the river. This could easily be used as a base after your trip to the Bend area for exploring the gorge and Mt. St. Helens.
There are lots of redwoods to visit around Crescent City. I don%26#39;t think there is any reason to head further south. Trees of Mystery has a gondola ride, which, if you are not afraid of heights, might be fun for the kids. A friend of mine did it a couple of weeks ago and loved it!
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